We Did Not Expect This To Happen! | Lightweight EMTB Comparison

We Did Not Expect This To Happen! | Lightweight EMTB Comparison

It wouldn’t be untrue to say some people have become more driven by the weights and measures of EMTBs in the past few years. With people pursuing lighter yet more powerful E-bikes, is there an argument to say this is the way forward? Join Steve Jones for an afternoon of riding as he compares multiple lightweight E-bikes to find out!

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50 Comments

  1. Martijn Scheffer on December 24, 2022 at 1:04 am

    another video that is a total waste of time, you should have measured your heart rate, try to keep it at the same level, measure your wattage and correct the results accordingly, please don’t do any science stuff,you just don’t understand physics, you don’t even understand how the speed of a bike is measured, you think the speed of the magnet is measured, instead of rotations counted. the only explanation for these absurd results is that you put more effort in, or the suspension is more efficient, these results have nothing do do with the motors, OBVIOUSLY !! it’s so stupid that i feel,you disrespect your viewers, we are not imbeciles.



  2. Andre Van Aardt on December 24, 2022 at 1:05 am

    Least expensive at 7500, come on. Ebikes prices are out of touch for the average person



  3. ForbinColossus on December 24, 2022 at 1:06 am

    @2:19 that *MOTOR WHINE* is killing my boner for these



  4. Robert Galant on December 24, 2022 at 1:06 am

    Blablablablathelessyouhavethemoreyoupayblablablabla…



  5. James Robson on December 24, 2022 at 1:07 am

    I don’t have a bike at the moment so hire and have now hired A LOT of the current ebikes.

    For me they keep missing the point of light weight. Full fat bikes are fun uphill but just too heavy to ride properly. These bikes win to be because of how they handle, I never understand why Steve never talks about that.

    They offer plenty of assistance making you able to do more but handle properly like normal bikes and with it are just more fun to ride.



  6. Ronald Westra on December 24, 2022 at 1:13 am

    Miss the Orbea!!!!!!



  7. Ged C on December 24, 2022 at 1:13 am

    The Orbea Rise has to be one of the best selling lightweight emtb’s. Where was it?



  8. steve east on December 24, 2022 at 1:16 am

    But, Steve, which would you have , full fat or light weight.



  9. Russell Smith on December 24, 2022 at 1:17 am

    Would have been interesting to have added the Orbea Rise in that test Steve. I have a 2021 Levo SL and absolutely love it. It’s such a sublime ride and so much more nimble on the trails than the heavy, full power bikes.



  10. Hedi Rainer on December 24, 2022 at 1:18 am

    There is no better motor than the Rocky Mountain Dyname,… Proof me wrong!



  11. Ondrej Jánoška on December 24, 2022 at 1:19 am

    Shooting the video with iPhone is a little disappointing



  12. johnny bravo on December 24, 2022 at 1:19 am

    The Levo SL, the bike Trek steals all of its ideas from !!!



  13. Imi Major on December 24, 2022 at 1:21 am

    are you serious ? 30 sec test? it would take at least 15 km to get a real picture



  14. sretlawgerg on December 24, 2022 at 1:22 am

    You missed the orbea rise 🙄



  15. Simon Pardo on December 24, 2022 at 1:22 am

    Can you tell us what tyres you used? (Maxxis obviously) but good to know as looking to swap out mine.



  16. Aharon Gina on December 24, 2022 at 1:22 am

    each bike could be configured differently , worthless video



  17. Petr38 on December 24, 2022 at 1:23 am

    Where is Orbea Rise??



  18. Weapon of Choice on December 24, 2022 at 1:24 am

    I’m calling BS. I love your show genuinely but I often get concerned about the influence of add money when doing reviews. This video is an example of that influence. As a consumer some of us can’t ride every bike and we educate ourselves through respected sources like yours. You guys have the resources to do testing that are thorough and scientific. I should not be able to find better produced and knowledgeable information from one person UTuners . Love your channel but today I am disappointed.



  19. Melchior on December 24, 2022 at 1:24 am

    Put an Orbea Rise h15 in the test and kiss goodbye these utterly ridiculously priced bikes



  20. Sh!tehawk on December 24, 2022 at 1:24 am

    Unless there’s a standardised torque test for these motors the manufacturer numbers mean nothing at all in isolation.



  21. András Kiszely on December 24, 2022 at 1:26 am

    For thouse who need 35 Nm ,they also have the power for a normal bicycle. Ergo: You don’t need it. This is a dead end on the part of the manufacturer (Specialized)



  22. James Rennie on December 24, 2022 at 1:29 am

    Sponsored by Specialized?



  23. Steven Hyndman on December 24, 2022 at 1:31 am

    Great to watch, so many variables though. next time try a trail center, a test riding up & downhill would be nice. I’m still very happy with my Kenevo SL., There’s nothing out there yet, that I would swap it for. I’m patiently waiting on Specialized releasing their new SL bikes next year. IMO they are still the leading brand that everyone is trying to keep up with. WATCH THIS SPACE.



  24. ADAM LOCK on December 24, 2022 at 1:31 am

    Nice Spesh add, well Specialized do have a few they need to shift before the new version arrives!



  25. Larry Megugorac on December 24, 2022 at 1:31 am

    Another great informative Video Stevie! Interesting that the Specialized, with lower numbers, beat the other bikes out! Not sure which way the market will go with lightweight eBikes but it’s always interesting! my eBike is full power with 160Nm and 1100 Whr Battery….she weighs north of 50 lbs though even with my ENVE wheel set, XX1 components with wireless. Thanks for all the info on these eBikes!



  26. WarbirdPylonRacer on December 24, 2022 at 1:32 am

    Would be interesting to go to the next level and test the ranges of each of these bikes. I think there’s a segment of riders that want to know how long can I ride this emtb comparatively?



  27. Jim Hofoss on December 24, 2022 at 1:32 am

    battery is the heart of ANY ebike…some cells perform much better under heavy loading.



  28. Daniel Cook on December 24, 2022 at 1:33 am

    Poor show not including the Orbea Rise in this group test.



  29. Thim on December 24, 2022 at 1:33 am

    Your one of my favorite channels, thanks for rocking the vids. Not to upset, but I think the Orbea Rise would have blown them all away. If I was to buy an ebike on a diet, I would get the new transition or kenevo sl. I’m all about gnarly downhills.



  30. Roman F on December 24, 2022 at 1:34 am

    Levo SL is a great bike. I love it. After 4000 km and a lot, lot of abuse often in rain, mud and snow it does not have any problems. But the peak power could be higher and I would love to have a boost for 10-12 seconds as well.



  31. Alistair Barclay on December 24, 2022 at 1:35 am

    Where is that tarmac hill? Would be fun try out ? 9:43



  32. Chris Russell on December 24, 2022 at 1:38 am

    Where was the Orbea Rise in a test like this. Its not just doing the challenge, it’s how the bike does it. The levo SL is so noisy, I had one for a year even on undulating cross country rides the SL motor has an intrusive whine. Orbea Rise will do anything these bikes will do in a much more relaxed way.



  33. Synysterjmz on December 24, 2022 at 1:39 am

    Unpopular opinion: I like the weight of my Megawatt; the amount of extra grip compared to my carbon normie Vitus Sommet outweighs any of the imaginary downsides.



  34. V R on December 24, 2022 at 1:40 am

    Why was the 2023 Orbea Rise left off of this list? It is probably the best of the LW EMTBs.



  35. Hans Zielarz on December 24, 2022 at 1:41 am

    Where is Orbea Rise??? How come you are missing the best and the most popular bike here?



  36. Phil Lee on December 24, 2022 at 1:41 am

    power meter and heart rate … please Steve .



  37. ruley74 on December 24, 2022 at 1:42 am

    yep, so range would be next, how much power or range do the higher power ones suck out of the battery vs the other



  38. Conal O'Donoghue on December 24, 2022 at 1:43 am

    Great video. I have a 2019 Levo – 500Whr battery and recently rode with mates who were on gravel bikes (fire roads and bitumen). The ride was just under 70km and 1000m of climbing. With kit I’m about 100kg, so no lightweight. I managed to get home with less than 10% battery left. I rode in Eco mode the majority of the time, apart from step sections that needed extra assistance. I would be really interested in the range of these new lighter eMTB’s. It would be an epic video for you to have four bikes (riding together so you all keep a similar pace) on test, riding through the country to see how far you get. Once again it would be a bit of fun rather than a scientific test.



  39. guyd4067 on December 24, 2022 at 1:46 am

    Oh no, not Jones. Turn off.



  40. Dwrowley .youtube on December 24, 2022 at 1:48 am

    what was different in the sound set upon this video, sounded very hollow at the start and could hear some heavy breathing



  41. Pierre Jobidon on December 24, 2022 at 1:49 am

    Ever made a test comparison for the noise level? Which motor is the quietest? Thx



  42. emma bird on December 24, 2022 at 1:50 am

    Rather you than me crossing the road at a blind bend like that at the top of your hill. Are there really never any cars coming round?



  43. brad sanders on December 24, 2022 at 1:50 am

    Obviously there’s a market for these bikes with less power, and some less weight. They still aren’t light, they aren’t cheap if you get the good one. They don’t have the range if the battery is small and light.

    My Canyon has the basic 85 NM of power, more would be really/really great but would kill the battery.
    Less would be less. For me if I’m dragging a motor and battery around it better be doing something good.



  44. George French on December 24, 2022 at 1:51 am

    Efficiency and range are the biggest concerns for most people looking at an SL bike. You make reference to this but don’t test it!
    The nature of electric motor design is that it can only have a relatively narrow power band at which it gets peak efficiency and If you design a motor to be able to put out 400W then chances are you aren’t going to be able to have maximum efficiency at the 80-150watt output of eco and trail where most SL riders will spend most of their time.
    I’ve done big rides with fitter riders on full power bikes with batteries twice the size of my Levo SL and ended up towing them up the last climb after they have run out of juice. A difference that is almost certainly entirely down to this efficiency band.



  45. Bill Deras on December 24, 2022 at 1:52 am

    Not what I expected either. However, I have ridden the 2023 Trek EXe to compare its power against my 2020 Levo SL and was not impressed by its power delivery…even though the Battery Health on my 30 month old SL is down to 93% (per Turbo Studio software at dealer; not, my Mission Control app which still says 100%).



  46. DTSquared on December 24, 2022 at 1:57 am

    I have a carbon Orbea Rise (about 18kg) after briefly getting the Trek E-Caliber (check my video about the complete disaster that that purchase was !). The point that seems to be overlooked regarding lighter eMTBs is the practicality of heavier full power bikes for general riding other than bike parks. This is especially true for older riders, like myself, who are getting into eMTB to extend our riding life. Loading a heavy ebike onto cars and lifting over the inevitable gates when riding real trails make the heavier bikes less practical. Also, in areas where routes are a mixture of road between trail sections the lighter weight bikes are easier to ride over the 15mph limit.



  47. Ballantin on December 24, 2022 at 1:58 am

    Was the mic in the camera active? I can hear someone’s breath other than Steve’s in the sections where he is speaking in a stopped position. Back to the topic, I own a normal Levo and more than one I questioned if I should have gone for the SL version instead.



  48. Mark Roberts on December 24, 2022 at 1:58 am

    If you buy the entry trek exe it has the same frame and motor as the one Steve rides but it’s 1K less than the Levo, going on how the bike looks I’d say the pivot then the trek, I’m still waiting for a few other bike brands to enter the SL range before I seriously consider an sl ebike



  49. Matteo on December 24, 2022 at 1:58 am

    Coincidently Specialized is the only Sponsored bike of the ones tested ( look in the description the list of sponsors)



  50. carl turner on December 24, 2022 at 2:01 am

    All Quiet on the TQ front, all the others sounded like noisy wound motors…