The best Insoles for your Cycling Shoes – Do you need Arch Support? – BikeFitTuesdays

The best Insoles for your Cycling Shoes – Do you need Arch Support? – BikeFitTuesdays

Bike Fit Tuesdays is here. Should you be using insoles for arch support? We discuss.
As usual, feel free to ask any questions down below and comment if you’d like to see us cover a specific bike fit topic.

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50 Comments

  1. john m on October 5, 2020 at 3:42 am

    Get to the fucking point already.



  2. Mikeandhis Bikes on October 5, 2020 at 3:42 am

    How does someone from NZ get those inner soles ? Meaning will James ship to NZ ?



  3. NUT-R on October 5, 2020 at 3:44 am

    I’ve had G8s for 2years now. I live in the mountains where foot to shoe contact forces are high (due to the steep gradients) and these have been my best investment bar none. Better than my power meter. My power jumped up 5%-6% on average straight away fitting these and even more on the turbo trainer where I found they had the biggest difference. It made my muscle firing during hard intervals much more precise which led to more power (or less fatigue for the same power). To me, the focus on arch support for bike fitting was initially aimed at correcting alignment issues… but imho the biggest gains are harnessing the ability to activate the sensors in the foot which allow the brain to correctly fire the muscles. I initially called BS on these statements around 5years ago. Although my wife thinks it a lot, this is the first time I have actually been wrong 🙂 G8s or similar are no joke.



  4. kimkimkim8 on October 5, 2020 at 3:45 am

    My man! 👊🏽😉



  5. Reece Tam on October 5, 2020 at 3:45 am

    whats the thought on a more rigid arch support vs a softer one?
    i.e. carbon fibre moulded vs the G8 as recommended in this video?
    Thanks.



  6. Assaulted Peanut on October 5, 2020 at 3:45 am

    Just bought some through bicycle 🙂 I bet I’m not the only one



  7. Dennis Binder on October 5, 2020 at 3:45 am

    Thank you for the video, something I never considered but will now look at



  8. Nice 'N' Sleazy on October 5, 2020 at 3:47 am

    I have just seen a podiatrist today. Been having issues on and off for years, so decided to get a 2nd opinion. Turns out I have a 1 cm leg length dependency. So now working on custom insole . What I did find interesting is that according to the Podiatrist is more important of foot stability forward and aft rather than arch support. Apparently is a common misconception regarding the arch to fix all issues.



  9. Chris Bayliss on October 5, 2020 at 3:48 am

    Question James , ive already had a good bike fit , however I’m looking for some new shoes and footbeds , do you carry a decent range of shoes?



  10. Pol Thomas KEELEY on October 5, 2020 at 3:52 am

    Yep, I’ve seen these before. Cam Nicholls recently talked about them too.
    Looking forward to trying them out!



  11. Graham Wynde on October 5, 2020 at 3:52 am

    Silly question but…is there any reason why I shouldn’t have different sized inserts in slightly different positions in the respective soles/shoes?



  12. Dom 7 on October 5, 2020 at 3:53 am

    I Love bike fit James!
    He is every Time 100%



  13. Will Bert on October 5, 2020 at 3:56 am

    my question would be: should i use arch support in cycling shoes, as i dont need one in my running shoes (as triathlete)?



  14. Mike Hill on October 5, 2020 at 3:58 am

    This was an incredibly helpful video, thanks Francis and James. Had never considered inner soles for my bike shoes before, but this makes a whole lot of sense.



  15. Sandro Zangrando on October 5, 2020 at 3:58 am

    G8, yesssss!



  16. Francis Cade on October 5, 2020 at 3:59 am

    Bigfoot.



  17. Chris Atendido on October 5, 2020 at 4:00 am

    Big fan, Needing some advice on the proper size road cycling shoe I need to purchase.
    My left foot measures 26.65 cm in length x 9.5 cm wide with cycling socks on.
    My right foot measure 26.5 cm in length x 9.5 cm wide with cycling socks on.
    I believe I have a normal foot arch on both feet.

    I gravitate towards Sidi, Fizik, and Northwave on pure aesthetics.

    I am looking forward to your reply and thank you in advanced.
    Keep up the quality content!



  18. John Campbell on October 5, 2020 at 4:02 am

    James / Francis – I’m pretty sure the little bag that comes with the insoles is a soft sunglass case… and it works really well!



  19. Frazer Goodwin on October 5, 2020 at 4:02 am

    I only came across your channel recently – beccause of your EverestingX2 challenge. But I’m now catching up on your content and I realize I’ve been really missing out. Fab content. Well presented. Great videos.



  20. Nice 'N' Sleazy on October 5, 2020 at 4:03 am

    how do they compare with superfeet I wonder ?



  21. Dave Pastore on October 5, 2020 at 4:05 am

    I recently bought a pair G8’s based on your recommendation. I have flat feet and noticed in the video that you said to start with number 3. Do you recommend number 3 as a good starting point for flat feet clients?



  22. Peak Torque on October 5, 2020 at 4:05 am

    I was surprised at the Lake cx237 and the complete lack of structure to the footbed (compared to how well done the rest of the shoe is). Question for James, what do you think of solestar?



  23. Samuel Lambert on October 5, 2020 at 4:06 am

    you talk about the right upgrades to make, and then we get this guy for free. the man’s a legend



  24. Brian Browne on October 5, 2020 at 4:06 am

    A year ago I would have said this was nuts. Then I had a bike fit with James and had new shoes and insoles. Transformed my comfort. Best bike fit ever.



  25. John on October 5, 2020 at 4:07 am

    I often find my left knee hurts and it wants to angle inward to feel better but then I have less direct power. I’ve had this issue for many years. I was thinking a G8 insole might better support my left arch and I could power at the proper alignment without soreness. What do you think James? Worth a try?



  26. Bruce Little on October 5, 2020 at 4:08 am

    The volume of a modern cycling shoe limits the use of insoles



  27. crack0n a on October 5, 2020 at 4:09 am

    I cant ride with arch support somehow. I run some ortholite insoles with none arch support and I can ride in them all day long. With arch support though my feets fall asleep after 30 min :/. I dont have arch support in my daily shoes neither btw. Normal or cripple feets xD. I use the lake mx270 shoes on my road bike.



  28. Nick Elson on October 5, 2020 at 4:10 am

    I’ve got sidas insoles but they are quite heavy, I think where the moulded section is. Are the G8’s lighter do you reckon? The sidas actually have a really notocoble weight to them.



  29. Richard Young on October 5, 2020 at 4:11 am

    Looking forward to my bike fit with Andy at Bicycle the end of February and hopefully an end to saddle issues, Hope their ready for an MTB!



  30. Roshan Bagga on October 5, 2020 at 4:13 am

    How do you get these in NY?



  31. Mark Rushton on October 5, 2020 at 4:14 am

    A well known London cycle fit shop can offer uber footbeds made by a podiatrist but this was an excellent demo/talk by James (as usual). I use moulded ones (sidas) but can see all the points he is talking about. Those 1p insoles that come with your £300 shoes are rubbish. Interesting that the fashionable knit shoes get some criticism. I wondered how a knit could offer some support. Good to hear sense being spoken on a vlog.



  32. Fred Couture on October 5, 2020 at 4:15 am

    Does the famous Greg Ferguson knows you have being using Geoff since his last Late Show went off the air !



  33. Steve Carr on October 5, 2020 at 4:16 am

    I use the insoles from a pair of recently retired Hoka running shoes. Very comfortable !



  34. Vincent Uiterweerd on October 5, 2020 at 4:17 am

    What would be better; cleat wedges or insole wedges?



  35. John Miracle on October 5, 2020 at 4:18 am

    Where do I get these in the USA?



  36. Miles Baker Clarke on October 5, 2020 at 4:18 am

    James fitted me with the G8s they have really sorted out my saddle issues. Only thing to bear in mind is making sure they fit in your shoes laterally!



  37. Jordan Graziano on October 5, 2020 at 4:19 am

    Unrelated question for James:
    why does stem length and frame size effect handling? i always feel more comfortable cornering on my crit bike over my normal road bike. my crit bike is a 52cm with a 90mm stem (slammed) whereas my normal bike is a 56cm with a 110mm stem (many spacers). also i am 177.5cm tall



  38. Graham Wynde on October 5, 2020 at 4:20 am

    I managed to mess up my EHL by getting seriously dehydrated and it’s taken ages to sort out…these could help, you think? I’m going to have a go…



  39. William Hickinbottom on October 5, 2020 at 4:20 am

    Watched the video, followed the link, made my wallet lighter, waited for the postie, fitted the footbed, went for a ride = WOW.



  40. Justin Tongol on October 5, 2020 at 4:21 am

    What is/are the brand(s) that wasn’t named in 5:27 ? Don’t need to fully mention the brand just give acronyms or aliases 😂



  41. Nick Mannerings on October 5, 2020 at 4:22 am

    I’d like to see a well thought out video about saddle position (height & fore aft). Also referring to the type of cycling being done. With good tips on establishing a suitable saddle height).



  42. 1234 on October 5, 2020 at 4:23 am

    wow ok I want this



  43. Christopher Rahilly on October 5, 2020 at 4:26 am

    Love the videos. Really informative. Just ordered a pair of insoles from your shop. Could get them here in the states, but really appreciate the time you guys take to make great videos.



  44. Dustin Meador on October 5, 2020 at 4:26 am

    What about for women’s size 7 u.s?We bought g8’s for myself and wife mine are great but cut hers and couldn’t get them to fit into shoes they were to wide



  45. wrarmatei on October 5, 2020 at 4:27 am

    I’d hesitate to call the cute little flexible cage that G8 insoles use "support". It’s more like something that becomes mostly flat when 50lbs gets put on it. the theory sounds plausible enough, but it seems trivial…like, people who actually need arch support develop actual physiological problems without proper orthotics…part of me is definitely jealous of fellas who ride in complete comfort, but want more.



  46. Mike Prytherch on October 5, 2020 at 4:29 am

    I had insoles fitted and I thought they were brilliant, after a very very wet ride the insoles stunk and I couldn’t get rid of the rotten smell so threw them away and put in the stock inserts that came with the shoes, and noticed no difference whatsoever, I’m not suggesting these don’t work, I’m just saying for me they made no difference compared to the insoles that came with the shoes (Shimano)



  47. Col on October 5, 2020 at 4:31 am

    £80 for the insoles……It’s no wonder people wait for the Chinese to copy them. Come on. You could sell these realistically for less than half that, sell far more and still do very nicely.



  48. W2HTLCA on October 5, 2020 at 4:40 am

    Truly appreciate Bike Fit Tuesday and learning from James. I have ridden for many years, had numerous bike fits, and not once did a fitter mention insoles.



  49. Jerry Hilts on October 5, 2020 at 4:40 am

    I’ll be honest, sometimes I find James’ recommendations, and the way he presents them to be … um … well … not for me. But regarding these insoles, he’s spot on. They rock. If, like me you’ve struggled to find insoles that support your arches, I can’t recommend these enough. All the other products I’ve tried before were too low, or too high, or just right for *one* foot, but just off for the other. I ordered a pair of the G8s after seeing James talk about them in a previous video. They are amazing. I was able to dial in the support perfectly on each foot. Thanks, James. I take back half the shite I’ve said about you.



  50. 4K xxx on October 5, 2020 at 4:40 am

    @Francis Cade I assume Lake shoes are good for this footbed???