Retro Vs Modern – The Cross Country Mountain Bike Race

Retro Vs Modern – The Cross Country Mountain Bike Race

A 90s Klein hardtail vs the latest Canyon Grand Canyon XC bike – what’s the difference out on the trail?

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It’s clear that bikes have progressed in the last 20 years, but, how much faster are modern day cross country bikes compared to one from 20 years ago?

Neil and Scott decided to put it to the test.

The moral of the story? Riding mountain bikes is fun: ride the bike that you can get your hands on.

Filmed at Bike Park Wales

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  1. cellphonenut on July 18, 2019 at 12:25 am

    How must of the advantage contributes to the 29" wheels

  2. pito perez on July 18, 2019 at 12:27 am

    26 rules motherfuckers

  3. Gerald Velasco on July 18, 2019 at 12:27 am

    wala sa Bike yan nasa Tuhod Yan😂

  4. Santos Fernandez on July 18, 2019 at 12:28 am

    Cool video. A good friend of mine gave me a 94 klein fervor with girvin forks to get started and begin to mountain bike as age 38. Im excited for sure.

  5. Aldo Emilio Janco on July 18, 2019 at 12:28 am

    26 vs 29??? good bye comparasion….

  6. DanAminyip on July 18, 2019 at 12:29 am

    tha 1 dude is lame as

  7. Budget MTB on July 18, 2019 at 12:29 am

    I love my modern 29er but I still have my old large frame 26er in the shed too. Feels unstable but at a push, I’d still take it out if I had to and be fine.

  8. Joshua Reagan on July 18, 2019 at 12:30 am

    I love these guys and really appreciate the videos but the music and production is so comically 2004 lame.

  9. Gigsand Busking on July 18, 2019 at 12:32 am

    And the price difference is way more than the bike difference!

  10. Dave Zombie on July 18, 2019 at 12:37 am

    I think you should race a beach cruiser against your canyon bike

  11. poobar69 on July 18, 2019 at 12:39 am

    Question why did you pit a middle of the road Klein with the modern tosh. At least use an adroit

  12. Jason Smith on July 18, 2019 at 12:40 am

    I still ride a ’97 Ventana Marble Peak FS that I put together with quality parts. Not only is it beautiful not look at, it’s fun to ride. I love it.

  13. Jacob Cline on July 18, 2019 at 12:40 am

    Where are you riding i want to go there it looks so fun to ride

  14. Anthony Salva on July 18, 2019 at 12:45 am

    Unfair comparison tho… full carbon vs alloy and suspension vs rigid fork and the gearing ratio

  15. Benjamin Kampine on July 18, 2019 at 12:45 am

    O my god!!!!!!!! I ride the pulse now days in 2019 and it has brand new parts including xtr shifting

    Xtr rim brakes anyone?

  16. SagNeinZurDreifaltigkeit SagNeinZurDreifaltigkeit on July 18, 2019 at 12:45 am

    The good ol’ times weren’t nearly as good as we use to think in retrospective. In fact, the bikes build pre 1990’s were mostly crap as cottered bottom brackets used to be standard and this made me almost quit biking. Square taper were the game changer. Never ever again an old bike. Never.

  17. David Lowery on July 18, 2019 at 12:47 am

    Oh the way that Klein made everything look just ever so sketchy. Brings back memories. I had a slick tired chromoly Fuji and the way it would wiggle and slide on everything, particularly wet bitumen after a brief summer storm, was a blast.

  18. Dave Zombie on July 18, 2019 at 12:47 am

    I’d rather have the Klein because it’s red

  19. Chick Miko on July 18, 2019 at 12:50 am

    I’m riding a 2001 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR XC on 26ers and regularly kick the ars of young guys on their new carbon 29ers LOL. It’s not the bike, it’s the rider!!!

  20. carlos santiago on July 18, 2019 at 12:51 am

    Klein Best the best

  21. Barney Clifton on July 18, 2019 at 12:52 am

    What a waste of my time, gmbn used to suck haha

  22. Олег Лето on July 18, 2019 at 12:52 am

    red bikes always wins

  23. Martin Pokmat on July 18, 2019 at 12:52 am

    this is not look like as the bicycle on the photo.

  24. Milanfan_1899 on July 18, 2019 at 12:53 am

    неправильное название. это скорее 26 vs 29. или хардтейл vs двухподвес.

  25. Martin Grindrod on July 18, 2019 at 12:53 am

    "The moral of the story? Riding mountain bikes is fun: ride the bike that you can get your hands on" and that really is the bottom line!

    I recently tried a full sus modern bike against my old clunker of a hardtail (Marin Pine Mountain with 70mm of fork travel!) , it was blisteringly fast on descents by comparison BUT I can get the same buzz and excitement at a much lower speed on my bike.

    I don’t compete in races so the absolute speed is simply not relevant, what does matter is that I can get my adrenaline fix on my bike at a speed that won’t smash my body to bits if I bin it whereas I would have been in severe peril at the speed I was travelling on the modern bike.

  26. VonGutenburgen Steinenhoffer on July 18, 2019 at 12:53 am

    I love these retro vids buy maybe use bikes that were at least in the same price point next time

  27. qubla2 on July 18, 2019 at 12:54 am

    Neil beats with style

  28. のなにぬね on July 18, 2019 at 12:55 am

    why MTB stem became short?
    i feel retro MTB stem is very long

  29. fóbi comentários on July 18, 2019 at 12:56 am

    my bike is retro (26′ 27v, 100mm fork, 1.75” tires,)

  30. The ChaosEngine on July 18, 2019 at 12:57 am

    That gradient chainstay was taking a kicking from the chain!

  31. Pablo Alvarado on July 18, 2019 at 12:59 am

    Buen vídeo

  32. albertosesn on July 18, 2019 at 1:02 am

    You should do a Retro expensive versus modern cheap race

  33. pr4wn5tar on July 18, 2019 at 1:03 am

    1997 is too new!

  34. Phil T on July 18, 2019 at 1:04 am

    not really a fair comparison. Too many of these videos seem to be just telling us we need to buy new bikes. sponsored by manufacturers? I find my older bikes have more fun factor than my newer full sus bikes

  35. Dimitrios Verginis on July 18, 2019 at 1:05 am

    klein pulse is a myth!canyon is a faulty piece of shit!!!!!!personally i prefer 100% the klein.if i want a real hardtail carbon bike i would go to a cannondale…

  36. buckbiro on July 18, 2019 at 1:06 am

    I love these guys’ videos, but it wouldn’t kill em to mention how much fun an old bike can be, never mind how much cheaper, during some of these comparison shorts. We get it $150<$7.5K. Not everybody wants or can afford a modern high-end bike. No need to make a young guy/girl feel the need to excuse themselves for having an old bike.

  37. Martin Axe on July 18, 2019 at 1:07 am

    So mountain bikers go from 11 to 24 gears in the last 15 years. Road cyclists went from 16 to 22 gears. I don’t know why I find that interesting.

  38. varowar Steel on July 18, 2019 at 1:07 am


  39. Snowsky on July 18, 2019 at 1:07 am

    I buyed trek 800 sport and I was racing with some at The look of The Eye New Kross and I won easily with chat crap

  40. WhatTheFlyinFudge on July 18, 2019 at 1:10 am

    …and here I am, with my 1995 GT Zaskar, 24 speeds, Rock Shox Judy, Mavic rims, Rock Ring, XT grouppo, and Onza Porcupine bar ends.

    I STILL DIG MY OLD ASS BIKE! After all this time I still haven’t broken the damn thing.

  41. Robert Johnson on July 18, 2019 at 1:12 am

    50 % skill, 20 % Motivation and the rest is equipment if you ask me

  42. John sense on July 18, 2019 at 1:14 am

    Also most old 26” MTB’s can convert to touring bikes built to last across the country and back.

  43. MyHomeworkAteMyDog on July 18, 2019 at 1:15 am

    Used to have a 98 ‘savoy’. Was cheap, but still out-performed everything near me. The thing was bulletproof. If you have a old one, don’t make the same mistakes I did. Keep it. Nowadays the same price point makes garbage bikes.

  44. Tom Winmill on July 18, 2019 at 1:17 am

    That klein was £700 brand new still got it in the garage good frame but rubbish components

  45. ymxctrails on July 18, 2019 at 1:17 am

    Still riding my 2000 Davinci MTB hardtail. I hate it when they laugh at old tech. Carbon fiber frames delaminate after a while too.

  46. Charlton Cruz on July 18, 2019 at 1:17 am

    The bikes weren’t even in the same price range. I bet the difference isn’t as big as it looks here if the bikes we’re from the same price bracket

  47. Tomáš Hlinovský on July 18, 2019 at 1:22 am

    I think that diference would be even more evident when terain gets rough as it is in xc races these days.

  48. 1 eq 0 dot 99999 repeating on July 18, 2019 at 1:22 am

    It’s very OK to ride a bike new to rider (even if it’s old, and especially old) slower than one which gets regular use. Muscle memory and all that stuff.

  49. j on July 18, 2019 at 1:23 am

    switch bike

  50. bhuuthesecond on July 18, 2019 at 1:24 am

    Why not compare the modern carbon fibre frame bike to a retro carbon fibre frame bike like the Trek 9900 from 1993? Or maybe compare the retro alloy frame bike to a modern alloy frame bike? It seems like an unfair comparison since carbon fibre is inherently lighter than an alloy material, and the modern rider ends up with a large advantage meanwhile his bicycle technology actually existed in the past 26 years ago…