Can An Urban E-Bike Be Used Off Road? | Riding A Commuter Bike In The Wild
Can An Urban E-Bike Be Used Off Road? | Riding A Commuter Bike In The Wild
It’s no secret that most E-Bikes that are sold are city bikes, EMTBs are in the minority. But just how capable are these hardtail commuters? To find out, Steve got on a train and headed to the mountains of Wales ⚡️
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In Sydney we pop on and off trains all the time with a bike at no extra cost and no restrictions even out to adjacent cities. *Every* door on the train has adjacent space for a bike – about 90% of stations have a lift too so no need to hump your bike up and down stairs either.
I find it’s a great way to extend my cycling range and I can be out in the bush in 30 minutes from my house in the suburbs and onto the paths and fire trails you’d think you were 500 km from the city. Yep, excellent bacon rolls also available here too. Tomato or BBQ with that mate?
Too bad Specialized can’t get there bikes UL 2849 approved in the US. They have had years to do it, but I guess they are too cheap to do it.
dont buy an ebike build one…
Incredible video, and incredible climb. Yes, the bike was very impressive, but the rider was even more so!!!! I have been trying to mix some bike riding with trains recently near Boston in the States, and it hasn’t gone so well on the train side. DD
I have done a some pretty serious off road on my volt infinity, its not ideal but it does it.
13:00 specialized employees watching this like 🤨
Anyone think of that camera guy? Has to do the same way up :DD
love an ebike but havent come across one yet that doesnt cost an arm and a leg,the bike industry are milking this green earth thing ripping off people.ebikes are great but way over priced.
The Beast Specialized turbo Vado 6.0. Amazing. 👍
Sorry but tedious camera work, we don’t need to see you actually eating a bacon roll or every tree and field out of the train window!
Let’s put it to the real test let’s see Chris do a backflip on it. Hee hee
Ton of talking here.
I often ride on Malvern hills with my KTM city bike rear hub motor……and it does it, not great but it does it
A crazy german transformed a Kenevo into a commuter: https://www.instagram.com/p/B5IBzC1C9Ac/
front mud guard seems Really low. I’d remove that before off rroadin
Can you just confirm whether anyone can ride up Sugarloaf?
How about… can an emtb be used as an urban commuter? Thanks guys, you’re content is awesome.
Everyone needs this bike.
I use my turbo vado 4.0 exactly as you did. Can you tell me what width are those maxxis. I use a 700 X 47mm Teravail Rutland and Cannonball and they are great tires. I’ve now upgraded from the 1 x 10 shimano deore to a sram 1 x 12 eagle nx cassette with a wolf 36T drop stop A chainring and it climbs hills so much easier. I wonder what you think of the brakes on your descend. I will be upgrading them for a Shimano m6120 4-piston caliper brakes. I tried replacing the180mm front rotor for 203mm but apparently the fork is rated for 180mm and doesn’t work nicely with the 203. Thanks for video. U r a skillful rider.
Tests a city bike up a hill but not down?
I think this was answered with a e-gravel bike but always wanted to know how a regular commuter or road e-bike would do! Searched high and low but just happened on this. Thank you so much for answering it!
Thanks! I’ve been looking for this type of info exactly! I’ve been planning to get one of these, or similar trekking e-bikes, to do some cross country trekking in Europe, AND climb some mountains in the Pyrenees while I’m there. A motorcycle would be ideal, but not sure how they’d handle pretty steep slopes vs a bike. Secondly, is the distance covered with one of these. From Spain to France, it could be several days of pedaling even with the electric batt. Do you per chance, have a vid doing cross country trips on an e-bike?
Also, has anybody fitted mtb tires on this model?
You did it but I bet you won;’t do it again on that commuter bike. Gearing and tires and suspension and even weight are not suited for that. Still fun to watch you make it work. Would like to see it tried on the all new Tero now which is a little bit more mountain bike than the Vado.
Brilliant video. Just what I’m looking for. So many of us have tried to under bike or sales economically and have broken our bikes Offroad so this is a fantastic video call with Philly because so many city bikes are cheap and you question how strong they are and whether you’ll break them
The short answer is – it depends.
Thre reasson for this is that not all e-bikes for commuting are built the same way. In Asia, where I am, they do make very good frames and one can get an MTB style e-bike with good range for U$600 (27.5 8 speed, 38T CR, 250 watts, 36v rear hub geared motor, disc brakes, front coil spring shocks, XC 2.25 kenda sb8 tires). However, I would not contemplate using them aggressively on trails. I would not do big jumps or bunny hops with them. They will likely not break anytime soon, but no doubt repeated stresses will likely weaken the frame and it could break. But for urban use, potholes and all, it will survive. Also, 250 watts 36v isn’t going to be that powerful enough for really steep hills. One could compensate somehow by going 32T cogs and maybe going down to 32T Chainring. But after such jousts, going back to the city, 32T may be too "slow" now. 34T to 38T is just fine in city riding. Better would be getting 36T or 42T cogs. Unfortunately, most rear hub motors are threaded and I very much doubt if one can find a 42T or 36T threaded type 8-speed one as easily, if at all! Your experience in this episodes bear out what I, and some of us already know.
I swear that chain is far too tight
I live in abergavenny and regularly ride my non ebikeon the mountain. It is really steep and I cant imagine it on a commuter bike!!
Looking good. Now I know what’s possible and what I have to learn and master with my trecking bike before I need to buy a mountainbike. You’ve chosen a very small tyre (33mm), seems to me the trecking bike has got a additional handicap by that choice. Todays typical factory equipped trecking bike tyres are more around 40-47mm.
I am actually wondering if you can use an E mountain bike for a commuter bike. Video please
Everyone in traffic hates it ass
Wow, great riding. Thanks for the look into extending commuter biking into backroads and trails, along with the utilization of public transportation. I definitely do not have the skills displayed here, however it will be my encouragement to take my commuter E-Bike for a ride on some roads and trails less travelled.
Epic! Really enjoyed that. Location is stunning too. Cycle/train/cycle looks like tons of fun.
My Specialized vado has been faulty now for 12 months. On the second screen with no power adjustment now and no local dealer would warranty bike.
you chose a bloody good one to try it on
For me it’s the other way around : I have an electric mountainbike which hasn’t seen any trails but I drive it too work. I also have an electric citybike
What is it with cars that makes you feel like public transpo is like going to "hell"?
Which exact bike model is this?
If E-MTBs are the minority, wonder what would they say about E-road bikes.
After watching this clip I decided to take my Vado SL (with normal tyres) over the SouthDowns Way. During the dry weather it coped well. When it got wet it was dodgy at times riding on grass/chalk terrain and in the muddy parts it was a challenge specially when the mud clogged up between tyre and mudguard. I only did 28 miles of the 100 mile route. Perhaps 2022 I’ll d9 the whole thing.
Bet you dabbed Steve 😉 fair play any cracks in frame after DH section ?
I bet the way back down was scary af.
Now that you’re familiar with the terrain & what it takes(physically). How about doing it again but this time with the specialized turbo como🤔
Nice video, I love your channel btw. I actually do it the other way round: I use a rather sturdy midrange Cube Hardtail E-Mountainbike featuring a Bosch CX Performance Motor and a wide range of gears for commuting as I live in a rather mountainy area in Germany. However, I’ve recently swopped the factory Smart Sams for great rolling and durable Schwalbe Marathon Almotion tyres as I mainly ride roads with this bike. Heretically, it is also fitted with mudguards, lights, reflectors and even a bicycle rack. It’s still a lot of fun to ride and I can jump all the uneven bits of road and kerbs. Keep up the good work!
This video sold me on the Vado 5.0 if I can find one here in the US. Thank you much and your videos are truly inspiring!
awe you missed the best bit, on train charging!
I did a summit on my road bike. 35c tyres.. just takes so much longer
I own the same bike. The only thing I would have done differently is whilst eating my bacon roll, the battery would have been on the floor somewhere in the cafe topping up! Never been in a cafe in 2 years that minds, after all people plug in their laptops and phones etc.