7 Things You Might Not Know About Carbon Fiber
7 Things You Might Not Know About Carbon Fiber
Doddy has got 7 facts about Carbon Fibre that you didn’t know! Carbon is an awesome material that’s allowing the bike industry to develop in ways that wasn’t previously possible! Check out the video to learn more…and if you’ve got some awesome facts that we’ve missed out, leave them in the comments!
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Carbon Fiber manufacturing is a labour intensive process that can produce lightweight, complex frames with many different combinations of attributes desirable for bicycles.
What is a carbon Fiber?
A Carbon fiber is a long strand of material made from carbon atoms. Thousands of these are spun together to make a yarn, which are then combined with resin to make carbon sheets.
What’s a layup?
A carbon layup is a combination of these sheets, laid into a mould, usually around a bladder, before being baked or cooked in order to harden them into the frame shape.
Where is it made?
Most major carbon bikes come from a handful of state of the art factories in Asia. These factories have been producing carbo fiber bikes and products for decades.
Sheet and Layup
The sheets have a uni-directional weave, which lends itself to the ride characteristics of the bike. Ideal carbon frames are stiff, light and dampen shock. A combination of these factors will produce a great bike. All of these factors are in fact controlled by the layup, so the better the layup, the better the bike!
How strong is it?
Super strong! Carbon can take a lot of cosmetic damage before becoming compromised and even then can be repaired much easier than other materials!
As with most things in life, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is! A fake frame will be from a budget knock off mould and will have a fraction of the engineering and development behind it to make it he bike it is!
Carbon is still being developed as a material! Meaning bikes have got a long way to go to becoming stronger, lighter and more affordable
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carbonFiber is the biggest scam in the biking industry! hands down!
Bike industry! Focus on making high end more affordable and you will sell more bikes! 3k just for a frame? Ridiculous! I’ll continue to ride all aluminum just because of this- next bike will have to be a YT or other direct brand for me to even afford a decent spec.
But how does carbon fibre get recycled? Aluminium can be easily recycled whereas much of carbon fibre now is simply sent to landfill.
At least give credit. Even the order is the same. http://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/components/the-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-carbon-fiber%3famp
Carbon is just an expensive way to say plastic
I guess that 26” wheel, entry-level carbon bike might cost a top 29” wheel, mid-to-top Aluminum bike… so, what’s best deal? I probably choose an Aluminum one…
I have learned a lot more about CF from the comments than I did watching the video. At the very least, the benefits of CF vs Alloy are debatable. It really did seem like an infomercial, especially since there wasn’t a “cons” list.
Carbon fiber will be destroyed or weaken when you repaint it. True?
Biggest problem with carbon fiber is there is no recycling yet.
The problem is that carbon fiber is fragile and aluminium is ductile, so it’s highly probable that a carbon frame breaks if you crash your bike, when an aluminum frame would bend a little and still be usable. If you brake a carbon frame it’s NOT easy to repair, you can overlay the broken part or zone with some carbon layers, paint it and ask for quite a lot of money, but the frame will be more fragile on that zone, the only correct way of repairing it is buying a new one, I’m sorry. Everyone should know this before buying a carbon frame and be aware about it.
a bit of cash!!!!! you mean 8 times less for almost the exact same thing. I could break 8 of these Chinese replicas before it is worth to buy a real one. yes it’s a little heavier a little less stiff and as a 1% chance of having a catastrophic failure, but who cares you know its chinese just dont start using it like a downhill pro and it will never break
I’ll stick with Cro-mo Steel frames forever! Even on full sus bikes and especiially for hardtail bikes!
I spent $350 on my flyxii chinese carbon frame(stump jumper clone) and its freaking awesome. Outfitted with all XT components its super lightweight. I have logged hundreds of miles on it and and it’s been a great frame. A lot of these frames are made in the same factories tham the name brands. Only difference is your buying a warranty when you buy a name brand. For me, buying charbon was worth the risk.
There is a amazing video on you tube showing the real differences between aluminium and carbon frames, done by Santa Cruz. https://youtu.be/w5eMMf11uhM
Just because you can’t afford carbon dont knock it
I want to get canyon mtb
-spectral cf 8 or 9 pro = carbon
-Spectral al 6 = alloy
The spectral al 6 and 8 are the same but the spectral cf has carbon frame,
Wich one should i get?
Is it true that Carbon Fiber frame will have shelf life?
My friends told me that carbon will only be good for upto 5yrs, beyond that, they say it would be better to change/upgrade frame?
Carbon fiber makes everything light especially my wallet
I’m going to take the wooden pole that broke Greg minnaar bike, it will be indestructible
Carbon fiber is simply the best material for bike frames, all the pros use it. The only thing is that is obviusly more expensive because it is better.
Why so hate??
Been making carbon parts for over a decade . Time consuming but the end results (if you’re good) are amazing . I have made seatposts, chainrings, a few sprockets and done lots of carbon repair work .
Video mark 1:37. What bike is the gray one??? Please let me know
my boardman frame is triple butted alloy. is that even good ? my bike is super light aswel.
I’ve been waiting for this video for too long
I need to say one thing is that you are so wrong when it’s coming to "fake" if you look up the manufacturer of the frame you can buy the frame direct from them and build up your bike and the cost is not much but exactly the same as in the top brands but you need to do your research like everything else in life.
Something that i don’t understand is way fulldamp frame bikes cost more. the frame cost around 290 punds but the reseller/brands sells it for 1000 punds does not make sense so for me i hope there is coming a brand that can deliver us a normal price fulldamp bike. should not be so hard to do
@ GMBN What brand is good for a carbon full suspension frame?
If, as you say, all carbon frames are made by a handful of specialist Far East manufacturers, why do they then decide to make inferior ones for their unbranded open mould frame customers? Isn’t it that the branded names are just charging everyone for their name. and OEM pass on the benefit of their Low overheads?
TALK ABOUT GRAPHENE!! It’s the future!
GMBN, please stop pumping out commercials, we have enough of those. Carbon is not here to stay because of 3d printing and you did not even touch the topic of recycling, which is a huge problem for carbon.
Very good info juragan….
Living things are mostly carbon, I’m the only carbon part on my bike
hybrid escape 2 got me started. Now need a carbon frame mtb with Deore or higher. wud love to hear ur recommendations. can spend more than Usd 1,500/- if need be
Really like the way you make your videos
i hace used a "fake" carbon frame and its completely fine as long as you maintain your bike properly… i have raced on it and it met my needs just fine.
carbon fiber bikes are not better for repair purposes. To get a carbon from repaired professionally it costs more then almost any aluminum frame and some carbon fiber frames.
Carbon fibre= brittle, fragile, impact WEAK, seasonal = disposable for the ones who can afford it. And to "fix" as expensive as 1/3 + of original price.
The problem with carbon is it cracks fairly easily
A lot of the carbon frames are stuck in a complexity mindset, I know ibis have simplified it for their in house small sized frames with good results.
Doddy can you get kevlar frames and if you can how do they stack up against carbon and alloy?
Mahalo my dudes .mtbshreddinggang
I ran across a fake colnago roadbike at my shop. Two years ago we also had a fake giant anthem come through. A fake giant 😂😂
Steel is real. You guys should do a video on the downsides of carbon and the marginal gains a bike of this material possesses.
I agree on the tech side what carbon is bringing, as an everyday inovation, but for me is one of those things that do not have a middle ground as you love him or hate him, is a on/off thing.. I realy like his feel, but keep on riding al/mag frames and wheels cause I ride some sort of free enduro ride and the disorder that carbon does on heavy terrain with less travel is apsurd.. I can manage to come down alive from some wild tops with al, but carb is so annoying in this situations that i diched it..
I don’t like this guy 🙁
Is the myth of carbon frame being brittle true??? Well like what happen to greg minnaar in val die sol?
Carbon Frame -> accident -> impact damage -> Barely visible delamination between CF layers (only small indentation visible) -> residual streght at the impact is lower -> next case of overload -> sudden failure at impact area
Of course, a repair is offered and possible, but I don’t trust these methods after reading loads of papers and articles about carbon fiber reinforced plastics.
Carbon is weak. It’s stiff yes but in local parts, carbon is easily cracked by intensive stress. And this means that carbon might be crashed unpredictably. Use alu, if you are a true gravity rider. At least Alu will give you a notice from disasters. Also that will save your wallet too.
Y’all with yer aluminium… STEEL IS REAL BOYZ