$180 vs. $2400 Drivetrain – Budget vs. Baller Episode 6

$180 vs. $2400 Drivetrain – Budget vs. Baller Episode 6

Mountain bike drivetrains have arguably seen the most amount of change over the last ten years compared to any other component. However, does more money equal more better? We’re going to find out with Henry’s $180 8-speed option against Jason’s $2400 12speed, electronic option.
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50 Comments

  1. AmyX on August 4, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    Here’s a thought. Buy the cheapest possible trash parts and try to build a decent bike using a free/cheap old bike as a base.



  2. kibbee890 on August 4, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    Its funny to hear them talk about the invention of the 1x drivertrian. I had a 1x drivertrain 30 years ago as a 10 year old as my bike was a 1×5. All they really invented was adding more gears on the cassette and getting it to shift well.



  3. Wer Wars? on August 4, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    quite surprising that drivechains are close in performance. Very educative video.



  4. Ben Pedelty on August 4, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    8:30 that bb is ruined nice one



  5. Dotz83 on August 4, 2022 at 11:55 pm

    this seems like donut media’s hi low series but with bikes.



  6. Lars Eastman on August 4, 2022 at 11:56 pm

    I wish you would’ve gone with a microshift advent x or box four setup. Because these are actually decent. Still nice video today.



  7. John DeF on August 4, 2022 at 11:57 pm

    Shimano Deore would be good enough for 95% of mtbers.



  8. ZeeMaxx4000 on August 4, 2022 at 11:58 pm

    The Budget bike gets upgrades???? No It doesnt. These arent upgrades, theyre downgrades.



  9. NoNonSense on August 4, 2022 at 11:58 pm

    me building a bike: “dont cheap out on the most important parts”
    the bike: everything on here is equally important
    my wallet: ☠️



  10. Tom Rodgers on August 4, 2022 at 11:58 pm

    Even $180.00 for a drivetrain is a lot but $2400, I hope you bought them dinner first. What is that a 800% profit at $300 a unit.



  11. Eoin Kenny on August 5, 2022 at 12:00 am

    When referring to gearing ratio, you should mention the wheel size.

    Eg. Henry thinking back to his old 34-42, there is every chance that was fitted on a 26" bike which is a perfectly reasonable ratio. On a 27.5 or 29 you would want to drop down the front chainring to compensate for the larger wheel with the same derailleur.



  12. Nick Truskowski on August 5, 2022 at 12:01 am

    $180 is budget? I spent like $30 on my cassette upgrade. I wouldn’t spend $2k on a bike if I was on a budget lol



  13. Maximilian Montserrat on August 5, 2022 at 12:01 am

    Much more interested in diminishing returns options than budget ones.



  14. SoloQ on August 5, 2022 at 12:01 am

    You can get a Deore M5100 groupset for 160$ and that’s a 1×11 and has a clutch mech



  15. M P on August 5, 2022 at 12:01 am

    anh; make almost no difference to a thumper such as myself.



  16. Firby007 on August 5, 2022 at 12:02 am

    imagine having a sponsored parktool wall of tools and hammering in the bearings…



  17. brendan meyler on August 5, 2022 at 12:03 am

    Really the sweet spot is somewhere between the two, but still closer to the low end. Cheaper service, good performance, good durability, good value. Shimano deore, and their identical siblings which do not carry the deore name such as bl-mt501 to bl-mt6000 which are the exact same but one is cheaper and uses a slightly different paint color. I don’t own a mtb but I ride gravel. I have a cheap ass hybrid I got from rei for 500 which now sells for 1k with a hodgepodge of upper low end components such as Shimano alivio and Altus. Alivio rear mech with shadow is damn good and dirt cheep. It fits an 11-36 cassette with 9 speeds and a tripped up front with 48-26 range. Pretty sure the range works out to be wider that your run of the mil fancy gravel bike nowadays with 1x. It works damn well. Really my only issue with the bike was cheap hydraulic brakes which had me fearing for my life on a decent due to fade which got upgraded to the deore type, tires to something more gravel specific, and some esi foam grips. The thing has been rock solid for like 4 years now and is totally badass imo. Basically buy a bike for a hood deal with value stuff on it and you upgrade and change the stuff you don’t like or is not performing well. You save a ton of money and end up with a pretty cool and bombproof ride.



  18. MrUzminiNu on August 5, 2022 at 12:04 am

    divi velo geji…facepalm…



  19. Shiny Cakes on August 5, 2022 at 12:05 am

    Waste of time… use reference budget parts



  20. NonLegit Nation 2 on August 5, 2022 at 12:06 am

    I’ll be honest with you I’ve never used a top of the line crankset before so i don’t have much to compare too, but I’ve been using a budget $45.00 IXF crankset (which is what he has, just rebranded) and it’s been extremely solid. IXF is the go-to for budget minded people who want to go to a Hollow Tech 1x crankset. Also the MicroShift Acolyte is a good groupset for people on a budget but a AdventX would be better for a little bit more. I was going to go with AdventX but decided to go with a Box 4 groupset and I love it, although the always engaged clutch is a PITA when trying to take my rear wheel off.



  21. David Baird on August 5, 2022 at 12:07 am

    $2400 on a Drivetrain is just dumb unless your rich as fuck



  22. claude on August 5, 2022 at 12:08 am

    you cant hear the english guy



  23. Jari K L on August 5, 2022 at 12:09 am

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.



  24. Incognito Reuploads on August 5, 2022 at 12:09 am

    When buying budget parts, people still consider quality. They don’t just buy the cheapest parts when they could pay like 20 more to get a much better part



  25. klaus larsen on August 5, 2022 at 12:09 am

    whats the deal with not wearing gloves? Do you not value your hands / fingers?



  26. Iron City Rob on August 5, 2022 at 12:13 am

    Sweet azz drivetrain, maybe check your forks compression.



  27. Silkl4sh on August 5, 2022 at 12:14 am

    Cheap Drivetrain and great suspension is the way to go on budget.



  28. Jonathan Tan on August 5, 2022 at 12:14 am

    Why wouldn’t they do a budget 12 speed which is a more real comparison



  29. marlerr __ on August 5, 2022 at 12:16 am

    When the "budget" derailleur cost more than your bike



  30. Fl studio music, no copyright on August 5, 2022 at 12:16 am

    I am happy with my $24 drivetrain 🙂



  31. Tom on August 5, 2022 at 12:16 am

    A lot of the upgrades on mountain bikes aren’t worth it. Forks, dropper post, and brakes are the only thing I’d consider going high end on.



  32. frankboothfuck on August 5, 2022 at 12:17 am

    Invention of 1x drivetrain? Dude everyone in BC was doing that 20 years ago.



  33. Jaime iz Real on August 5, 2022 at 12:18 am

    At 10:50, just a little bit of thread lock cures that problem. I stress, a little bit.



  34. ville on August 5, 2022 at 12:19 am

    Sinking 2,4k on bicycle drivetrain should be illegal.



  35. GrAYvTrAnE on August 5, 2022 at 12:24 am

    I just upgraded my hardtail to a MicroShift setup, I chose the advent over the acolyte. Couldn’t beat the value. Where else are you going to get a new, unused, clutched, rear deraileur with ball bearing shifter for less than 90 USD? I did splurge a little more on my cranks though and I went with a blackops crank with a 32t chain ring.



  36. J.Byrneham on August 5, 2022 at 12:25 am

    BATTLE OF THE LISPS



  37. Joana Faye Gibe on August 5, 2022 at 12:25 am

    Im still using the 3×7 old shimano groupset on my ride. I like it. Since i am biking to exercise its fun for me. The harder the better.



  38. Anarchy Play on August 5, 2022 at 12:32 am

    самое важное на первых секундах показали))) а на самом деле спасибо за познавательный контент!!!!



  39. Brandon B on August 5, 2022 at 12:32 am

    This has to be the most pretentious mountain bike content I have seen, and that says a lot.



  40. Ben Pedelty on August 5, 2022 at 12:35 am

    the idiot had A press in the background, still uses A hammer



  41. Graeme Brumfitt on August 5, 2022 at 12:35 am

    The invention of the one by drive train!!! Please. GB 🙂



  42. yadunath mahadeo on August 5, 2022 at 12:36 am

    At least start with a 300 to 500 budget man come on …obviously dirt cheap ones gonna be shit 😆 🤣



  43. Sponge Imperium on August 5, 2022 at 12:36 am

    Budget vs Baller bike cleaning stuff



  44. MrJturner74 on August 5, 2022 at 12:36 am

    So to make modern bike racing more interesting we introduce emps, or devices that interfere with the wireless shifting.



  45. elite chen on August 5, 2022 at 12:37 am

    now u need the 2000 dollar rims to go with your drivetrain!!!!



  46. James Morwood on August 5, 2022 at 12:37 am

    It wouldn’t have been much more for a deore 11 or 12s with the same range as the GX. And if you’re going to go most expensive don’t run the “budget” wireless run the xx1 or x01 and show the most expensive one.



  47. Scutu-[RC] on August 5, 2022 at 12:42 am

    In my opinion, both of you should have an opinion on both parts / bikes. Riding them both will make it easier for you to notice the difference in performance!!! Please do! 🙂



  48. Rares Marcu on August 5, 2022 at 12:43 am

    bruh you re crank set cost more then my bike 😐
    my bike is 800 $



  49. kojot0976 on August 5, 2022 at 12:46 am

    In the very first episode: “We have based this on Donut’s Hi and Low series. One bike will get the expensive upgrades and the other will get the cheapest one.”

    Every single comment: WhY aRe yOu BuYiNg ChEaP sTuFf FoR iT aNd MaKe It WoRsE???

    *sigh*



  50. Fib on August 5, 2022 at 12:47 am

    At least give it a Deore m5100